• Btw this was a pair of shoes I saw at a store in Massachusetts back in 2017. I thought it was so ridiculous I took a picture of the tag.

    • Silly American thing where you still have to pay for doctors visits even though you already pay insurance

      • To be clear, it’s a thing in many countries with socialized medicine as well. Sweden, Germany, France, to name a few.

        • Never paid in Germany (besides the huge monthly insurance payment, ofc). Small payments for absolutely everything in Norway.

          • For things like ADHD meds, you need to pay an additional amount of money. The insurance just deducts it significantly.
            Same for other stuff.
            Some doctors offer services not covered or not fully covered by insurance.

        • The person you’re replying to is canadian. Their government-funded insurance has copays in certain situations. You wasted energy replying to a dingus.

          • 7 hours

            What if they have never heard of the term, even though they are Canadian? That doesn’t seem like an impossibility. I’ve never heard of it either, so the answer was certainly helpful either way.

    • A copay is the amount that you pay for certain healthcare expenses. The rest is paid for by your insurance company.

      • Not quite, at least not in American healthcare terms. A copay is your portion of the cost for an appointment, procedure, or prescription. For example of the doctor visit is $100 and my copay is $25, I pay $25 and the insurance pays $75 (in practice the insurance doesn’t ever really pay their full share but that’s a more complicated part of the equation.)

        The deductible is how much I have to pay out of pocket in a year before the insurance starts paying anything. My deductible might be say, $1000, meaning I have to pay $1000 out of pocket before the insurance kicks in to cover anything at all.

        max out of pocket is the maximum amount you will pay for medical in a year.

        Oh and of course there is the premium which you pay monthly for the pleasure of having insurance.

        So if your premium is $200, copay is $25, your deductible is $1000, and your max out of pocket is $5000, and a (normal non specialty) doctor visit is $100, you have to visit the doctor 10 times before the insurance pays anything at all (you pay the full $100 each time) and then the 11th visit is $25 and the insurance pays the rest. If you visit the doctor enough to hit max out of pocket (160 more visits to a normal non specialty doctor), then the insurance kicks in to pay 100%. And no your monthly $200 premium doesn’t go towards your max out of pocket

        Most people never hit their max out of pocket and most people without kids that Ive talked to never hit their deductible unless they have a condition that requires regular treatment or if they get into an accident or have something major happen. Then you can blow out your deductible / max out of pocket in one hospital visit.

        So basically your insurance is paid to do diddly squat, except prevent you from going bankrupt if you get into a car accident (except they will totally find ways to deny your claim anyways).

        Source: am a trans man with a neurological condition. I’m a medical nightmare and have had to learn to be a self advocate through multiple American insurances.

        • In other places, a deductible is what you pay to get insurance coverage for an event. So yes, it is essentially that to the rest of the world. If you break your arm, you pay your $100 deductible or whatever it is, and the entire cost of everything for the procedure, is covered by insurance, no matter the final bill.

          US insurance is a joke.

  • Completely unrelated, ondansetron is what I’d expect to hear when Santa upgrades to robotic reindeer.

  • A penny in 1900 is 40 pennys today. Doesn’t that make it sound better?

    • A penny in 1900 was a worthless token that only had value because it could be exchanged for the valuable Silver and Gold coins of the era.

      2067 pennies were able to be exchanged for 1 Oz of fine Gold.

      Today, you need more than 400,000 pennies to get the same Oz of fine Gold.

      400,000 / 2067 = 193

      So the penny in 1900 is 193 pennies today.