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2 days

I Regret Migrating to Codeberg

マリウス.com English

cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1282049/i-regret-migrating-to-codeberg

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    A brief comment on Codeberg’s new terms, and why a free-software host deciding which projects are welcome worries me more than the bans themselves.
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    • A_norny_mousse@piefed.zipEnglish
      2 days

      It’s driven by Forgejo. Just use that to host your own if you disagree with the services given to you for free.

      Also Fuck the AI hype.

      • Optional@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2 days

        TL;DR: First they came for the LLM and crypto warez?

        idk

        • solrize@lemmy.mlEnglish
          2 days

          I think a lot of Codeberg users are refugees from Github who didn’t want Microsoft telling them what to do. Joke’s on them, now they also don’t want Codeberg telling them what to do. Self-hosting is the answer, but something like federation between self-hosted forges also seems like a good idea.

          • flamingos-cant (hopepunk arc)@feddit.ukEnglish
            2 days

            The part that bothers me isn’t the specific ban on LLM projects, or the specific ban on cryptocurrency projects. It’s that a hub built around “free software” is now telling its users which kinds of software are deemed good and which are not, and that is closer to censorship than it might seem. Once a platform writes into its terms that an entire category “harms its reputation” and can be removed on that basis, the deciding factor stops being whether the code is legal, or functional, or useful, and becomes whether it aligns with a position the platform has taken. […] Every platform I can think of that took this approach became divisive the moment it started enforcing an ideology on its users, whatever that ideology happened to be, and however justified it looked at the time.

            As acknowledged, Codeberg already doesn’t allow non-free software on it, that is itself pushing an ideology on its users. Extending this stance to other forms of software isn’t the big deal the author is making it out to be, software being free doesn’t absolve it of other moral implications.

            We now even have people like Linus Torvalds making the fairly reasonable argument that an LLM is just a tool, and “clearly a useful one”

            Appeal to authority. See this response.

            • StrawberryPigtails@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
              2 days

              Meh.

              Their soapbox, their rules. You don’t like their rules, self host and make your own.

                • XLE@piefed.socialEnglish
                  1 day

                  Ironically, if you visit this site, you’ll be hit with a “please disable JavaScript” message at the top. Seems the author understands “their platform, their rules”.

                  They also make some okay points and concessions, before making a terrible suggestion for what Codeberg should do. Apparently they think Codeberg needs to be more soapbox-y, not less.

                  I think Codeberg made a misstep, but this suggestion is somehow worse.

                • db2@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  2 days

                  😬

                  Ctrl+f “first amendment” shockingly didn’t find anything. It’s like one pinky toe away from saying it though.

                  Also blog writer, put down the italics and take three steps back.

                  • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    2 days

                    Since this article is being cross-posted, I will reiterate my original response.

                    The part that bothers me isn’t the specific ban on LLM projects, or the specific ban on cryptocurrency projects. It’s that a hub built around “free software” is now telling its users which kinds of software are deemed good and which are not, and that is closer to censorship than it might seem.

                    What a stupid, ignorant, harmful take. I shouldn’t need to explain how or why theft, plagiarism, poor code quality, or uncountable other factors contribute to a broadly objective standard of “good” and “not good.” In fact, it is more “acceptable” versus “dangerous.”

                    The false equivalence here is intolerable.

                      • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.caEnglish
                        2 days

                        Okay, I hear that you think you shouldn’t have to explain. But you do have to explain. And you also have to justify using what to me without that justification sounds like abusive language aimed at a present member, intended to browbeat someone merely for having a different opinion.

                        • kibblebits@quokk.auEnglish
                          2 days

                          If it’s legitimate code, do you think its topic alone is enough reason to refuse hosting it? What if the topic is one you agree with?

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